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#1 07-31-2014, 06:23 AM

Killswitch Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 68

BLR 308 feeding problems. Took my rifle to the range yesterday and it was shooting great. Then on my last clip when i tried to pull thr lever down to load the first round and the bullet underneath popped up out of the magazine as well. I am relatively new so might be called double feeding? I am assuming maybe the clip got bent? Could that be it?

#2 07-31-2014, 08:58 AM

260 Rem Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: East Central Alberta Posts: 8,303

Wonder if you had too many loaded in the magazine, resulting in the top round not being captured by the lips? Could you repeat the malfunction or was it a "one time" occurrence?

#3 07-31-2014, 09:09 AM

qwert Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,445

The BLR does not use a 'clip'. One occurrence of mis-feeding may be just an anomaly and could be due to many different factors including operator error. "Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action." Goldfinger clean & check the magazine for any obvious damage or wear or burr, check for proper spring action and free of any binding, load the magazine carefully inspecting cases for dents or other problems, ensure the rounds are properly seated at the rear of the magazine, document any problems carefully, do NOT bend the feed lips on the magazine until you are very VERY sure of the cause of any problem and have eliminated ALL other possible causes. CAUTION - the pre81 BLR magazines are very hard to find and very $$$$$$ if you do. Good Luck, YMMV

#4 07-31-2014, 09:12 AM

Killswitch Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 68

It happens every time now. Even with 2 bullets in the magazine. I do believe the lips are bent somewhere

#5 07-31-2014, 10:19 AM

qwert Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,445

For how long, how many rounds was it working correctly? What happened just before the problem started? Have you disassembled the magazine to clean and inspect the spring? After a search of your postings, you have reported, You obtained the rifle with no mag? You then reported going to the range but the mag would not lock in the rifle? Where did the mag come from? Is it a genuine Browning BLR mag or a bubba copy? Photos? You asked for gunsmith referral. Did any gunsmith do any inspection or modification? Was it you who reported problems with rounds rubbing on the bottom of the bolt? Is the rifle made in Belgium? or Miroku/Japan? Anyone attempting to diagnose your problem is going to need all the facts documented in logical order. I suggest you start by attempting to create a complete printed paper chronological log of everything you know about this rifle and all of the problems and especially of any work or modification done.

#6 07-31-2014, 10:27 AM

Killswitch Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 68

Here is the story behind the gun. Was inherited it from my father in law bit he lost the original clip found a clip at bashaw sports and bought it (they said it was authentic) Clip came and we realized the clip would not lock into rifle pushed the clip a little harder and clip got stuck in rifle gunsmith got rhe rifle clip out and filed the clip and gun to make the clip lock. smith told me now the bolt was jamming due to pressure took to another smith and realized it would not jam at all if i used winchesyer 150 grain bullets shot close to 5 boxes a with no problems went to load first round and 2nd bullet popped up as well does that every time now

#7 07-31-2014, 10:59 AM

qwert Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,445

Quote: Originally Posted by Killswitch Here is the story behind the gun. Was inherited it from my father in law bit he lost the original clip found a clip at bashaw sports and bought it (they said it was authentic) Clip came and we realized the clip would not lock into rifle pushed the clip a little harder and clip got stuck in rifle gunsmith got rhe rifle clip out and filed the clip and gun to make the clip lock. smith told me now the bolt was jamming due to pressure took to another smith and realized it would not jam at all if i used winchesyer 150 grain bullets shot close to 5 boxes a with no problems went to load first round and 2nd bullet popped up as well does that every time now I would like to help you, but I have no knowledge of any 'clip' being available or used with any Browning BLR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_%28ammunition%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_%28firearms%29 http://www.thegunzone.com/clips-mags.html Good Luck, YMMV Last edited by qwert; 07-31-2014 at 11:08 AM.

#8 07-31-2014, 11:07 AM

Killswitch Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 68

Sorry not clip, magazine

#9 07-31-2014, 11:33 AM

1899b Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sherwood Park Ab Posts: 5,877

Quote: Originally Posted by qwert I would like to help you, but I have no knowledge of any 'clip' being available or used with any Browning BLR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_%28ammunition%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_%28firearms%29 http://www.thegunzone.com/clips-mags.html Good Luck, YMMV Nice answer. I am sure you knew what he meant... __________________ An awful lot of big game was killed with the .30-06 including the big bears before everyone became affluent enough to own a rifle for every species of game they might hunt.

#10 07-31-2014, 11:49 AM

Dean2 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near Edmonton Posts: 14,374

Take it back to the second gunsmith you used. He at least seems to know what he is doing. Try to find another mag, try P.A. Lacombe 613-674-2022 cta-inc@vpweb.ca. They had some pre 81 mags, also check Western Gun Parts in Edmonton. As far as the bolt jamming, I would say it is still not timed properly. Short version of how to time a Browning: Some of the older models repair information states that when the action is properly timed, cocking the hammer will allow the breech bolt slide to move to the rear a maximum of .015. Headspace trick - It has a bull pinion that the large gear meshes with the bolt and the small gear meshes with the gear segment in the lever. It has fewer teeth than the big gear. Don't put your pins (screws on some models) in tight until you get the timing set correctly. First close the bolt making sure the bolt carrier is all the way forward and the bolt head turned and locked. Now take a piece of duct tape and tape the rear of the bolt where the hammer strikes the firing pin so it can't move out of the receiver. What you are going to do now is strictly trial and error. Fit the bull pinion in and out until the lever is all the way closed and the large gear is meshed with the rack gear in the bottom of the bolt carrier and the hole in the center of the gear is in line with the hole in the receiver. I don't remember how many teeth are in the small gear but that is how many chances you have of getting it right. One gear has a even number of teeth and the other gear has an odd number of teeth and that gives it the option of being adjustable. Last edited by Dean2; 07-31-2014 at 12:06 PM.

#11 07-31-2014, 02:02 PM

gtr Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Manitoba Posts: 1,529

No need to be sorry Quote: Originally Posted by Killswitch Sorry not clip, magazine 99% of people over 50 with any amount of understanding, call a mag a clip.

#12 07-31-2014, 03:13 PM

Killswitch Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 68

The problem i am having is what if i pick up anotjer magazine and it does the same thing? For close to 300 i could just get a new rifle. I would believe that because 2 bullets are popping up it is the magazine. But even when its loaded and i pull to discharge its quite hard to finally pull the lever down. Maybe i will just have to load kne in the chamber at a time. Only need one ahot to drop a deer right haha

#13 07-31-2014, 05:13 PM

Battle Rat Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2,365

Quote: Originally Posted by gtr 99% of people over 50 with any amount of understanding, call a mag a clip. Dam straight. It clips in, it's a clip.

#14 07-31-2014, 10:12 PM

bigjohncdn Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: S.W. Alberta, in the country :-) Posts: 631

Since there is more than one variant of the rifle, are you sure you have a proper magazine for the series of rifle you have? The early BLR magazine did not have a flat bottom on it, the later one did, they are NOT interchangeable. __________________ Golden years my a**, more like rusty years

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